The Saturnian Relationship “Other Orbs ‘UFOs’”

This morning, a Saturnian contacted me regarding her society and asked me to offer a clarification for the public, because both her civilization and other extraterrestrial complexes have been involved with what are commonly termed “orb UFOs.” She wanted to address a highly controversial issue where sometimes the subjective perception of “orb UFOs” are connected to people distinctly and vividly perceiving what might be seen as myths or legends.

She mentioned the Hyadean complex in particular, controversial as it is. This Saturnian can’t escape her history with Norse magic, and I observed to her that the Hyadean complex has a history with the rune Ingwaz. Sometimes when Ingwaz is honored with the Norse god Freyr, the egregore of the elves are appeased, and beings termed Hyadean can’t escape their elf-like appearance.

Sarah Stilwell Weber’s “In The Light Of The Moon” resembles a Hyadean complex occupant, leading to such controversies about them. The egregore of the elves can activate the Hyadean complex.

Her concerns included that some influential and well-connected Europeans wanted to forbid honoring the rune Tiwaz and Norse god Tyr. I used to wonder, “Why is Tuesday named after Lord Tyr?” and long story short, Saturnian society can’t forbid honoring the rune Tiwaz and a realm associated with Tyr called Sfartalfheim where people believe entire dwarves can appear.

As I’ve experienced Agarthians associated with Aldebaran, some of them are pleased by honoring the rune Tiwaz and Sfartalfheim, as some of them in the “four foot tall” group identify with the dwarves and will be pleased by the honoring of Sfartalfheim who are sometimes themselves associated with an Agarthian colony termed Asgard. (Asgard cannot be of Mount Shasta or the Kentucky Mammoth Caves in my mind.) Then it’s incredibly awkward with, er, helper beings in the Hyadean complex who might be said to resemble dwarves and the Agarthians themselves. I feel like there’s more than a myth going on here, and I actually am certain I saw a four-foot tall woman in a dark robe who liked the rune Tiwaz. She was good-natured to me, and identified with Aldebaran.

Lord Tyr sometimes appeared like a Roman in some 1800s manuscripts in what was then England, because of all the Roman souls that moved through the European continent over the years to England bringing Roman spirituality with them.

This Saturnian contacting me this morning clarified for me that in no way are her Saturnians “at war” with the Hyadean complex “because sometimes our ‘orb UFO’ is associated with the Black Sun.” Simply put, if the Hyadean complex occupant doesn’t offend against the Saturnians — and this is literally unheard of, according to her — there’s no issue for “our” Saturnians. “Working with the energy of the Black Sun doesn’t mean we offend against the Hyadeans, or are in any way in conflict with them.” This is regardless of whether people believe they are accompanied by dwarves associated with the rune Tiwaz.

She continued that their history of working with the Black Sun traces back to the legacy of the Ahnenerbe Society and some reproduction vehicles of 1940s Germany that have been made public knowledge.

This is the sigil of the Ahnenerbe Society, which was involved with reproduction vehicles designed by Maria Orsic and her Vril Society. Saturnians claimed to me that they have been involved with such reproduction vehicles before.

She mentioned the Lemurians of Iceland in particular, some of whom were survivors of an ancient cataclysm that drove them to Iceland rather than Spain where Euskadi is still spoken in some places, can be very emotional about the Hyadean complex being active because some of them know they left their human bodies in the cataclysm to join the elves and some Lemurians began to appear as elves as Aryans began to begin speciation in ancient times. This Saturnian told me she believes at times, the egregore of the Jarls of Iceland rouses the attention of the Lemurians of Iceland who at times interact with the elves.

As this Saturnian continued, I noticed I felt uncomfortable to consider the sad history of the Lemurians of the Middle East, but not so uncomfortable that I couldn’t continue. I notice they sometimes lament what happened during ancient migrations from what is now China toward Europe, and the greater Indus Valley region. Lemurians sometimes associated with the Tower of Babel at times influence a spaceship-involves society I refer to as the Lyran Council, and at times this concerns a group of Saturnians who have in the past been associated with the star called Sagittarius.

People believe in middle eastern “cat-god” Zervan personally on talking circuits involved with Saturnians who have in the past been identified with the star of Sagittarius. Sometimes it is believed he can be like an avatar of Vishnu, and an entire “cat-man” can come to life, and the Saturnian claimed to me this was a very special mission of theirs to the middle east that actually involves the concept in Hindu thinking of an avatar, where a particular deity can come to life completely. Vishnu himself is believed to be able to manifest as a cat-man also, like Zervan, to be clear.

A depiction of Zervan.

Within Sagittarian talking circuits, people believe in Zervan personally, and my contact told me “this is awkward with ‘orb UFOs’ and why some people believe in ‘entire living cat people.’” I encountered this belief in Andromedan circles. Myths and legends are part of these discussion circles.

I’ve decided to distance myself from popular active Andromedan circles here in the U.S. at the time of this writing because of their connection to encouraging suicides, and because of serious criminal allegations connected to involved U.S. government personnel including depriving people of the pursuit of happiness from their workplace in what I perceived as major Constitutional issues. I don’t ever feel like any human involved in Andromeda Council contact circles wanted to help me be a happy and productive U.S. citizen, as I often of late ask Agarthians about self-imposed exile due to how corrupt influential people within the United States intelligence community seem to me this morning.

At any rate, the Lemurians involved in these “orb UFO” spaceships are emotional about Zervan personally. Zervan’s feelings matter to them. Certainly, the Lyrans involved in “orb UFOs” have to be able to have their souls roused by the ancient Lemurians like the Wa-gas in my experience. The Wa-gas and other Lemurian tribes have to be able to get the attention of what I would term the Lyran Council.

People are allowed to believe in entire living cat-people in these circles. Sometimes other deities are identified with Sagittarian missions, including Leo or Sekhmet, who share this archetype of the cat-person.

The Saturnian woman contacting me made it clear for me, “Whatever is going on here, please don’t depict fighting between cat-people and Hyadeans at my behest. I’ve never felt like they’re fighting, but it’s not every day I come out to check on the Sagittarians who are believed to exist in Colorado.”

I noticed her inner child seemed amused as she mentioned “this has to be able to be funny to people if an entire Saturnian also puts on a cat costume sometimes, or even just has part of a costume like mittens with cat claws. If people can’t have a sense of humor about cat-people, I just don’t know what to do here.” She wasn’t depicting the Saturnian being cruel, but something that might be tolerated of a teenager at a costume party in just wearing a costume, though she wasn’t alluding to me that “that’s all that’s going on here, is a joke by a Saturnian.” I had a distinct impression that there’s more going on here than a joke by Saturnians, though I’ve not yet felt like any of them have a cruel sense of humor in at least three distinct Saturnians I feel I’ve encountered.

Semjase was insistent to me that her Saturnians were not in conflict with the Sagittarian mission. “Whatever is going on with people’s subjective perception of ‘I swear, Sir, I thought I saw like a cat-man’ our Saturnian mission is going to just live and let live with what’s going on there. We know a Saturnian in Colorado has a history with ‘No, sir. I swear, sir. I couldn’t tell if there was a cat-man in there, sir.’”

She didn’t seem to have her tongue firmly in cheek when she told me this. Semjase clearly understood the concept of humor to me, and I’ve never felt like her sense of humor is cruel. My perception was she didn’t seem at all amused by the thought of an actual “cat-person attack” though that seems to be what was depicted in Sagittarian circles.

During the telepathic interaction with her in her spaceship, which I define as CE-2, she asked me to address these extremely controversial “orb UFO” related interactions outside of her Lyran Council that can effect them in their Lyran Council.

(I wrote about Sagittarian missions last year, and it became clear to me today that my perceptions are correct and these are Saturnians on a different mission.)

Jim Nichols’ depiction of Semjase. My Saturnian contact this morning identified herself to me as Semjase. I feel she is more than a myth or legend being promoted by Mr. Nichols and others, and it seems to me her and her sister have real feelings independent of those escorting them.